tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10238581.post111806874925687918..comments2023-10-07T08:52:16.715-07:00Comments on The Virtual World: Stephen Crane - In the desertPeterhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11435013887780629734noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10238581.post-60141773201610772302009-10-20T08:11:48.891-07:002009-10-20T08:11:48.891-07:00I think the insight the poem is giving can be summ...I think the insight the poem is giving can be summed up in a question for the reader to ponder.<br /><br />"What is it about the bitter heart that tastes so sweet?"Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17645581907288953574noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10238581.post-1118121450091881862005-06-06T22:17:00.000-07:002005-06-06T22:17:00.000-07:00Reggie H:You have sent me scurrying back to my cop...Reggie H:<BR/>You have sent me scurrying back to my copy of Desire. Thanks.Peterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11435013887780629734noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10238581.post-1118112601388803222005-06-06T19:50:00.000-07:002005-06-06T19:50:00.000-07:001st Peter: loved 'Saying the World' and love the b...1st Peter: loved 'Saying the World' and love the blog as well.<BR/><BR/>2nd: Frank Bidart used this in his book Desire --<BR/><BR/>Love Incarnate<BR/>(Dante, Vita Nuova)<BR/><BR/><BR/>To all those driven berserk or humanized by love<BR/>this is offered, for I need help <BR/>deciphering my dream.<BR/>When we love our lord is LOVE.<BR/><BR/>When I recall that at the fourth hour<BR/>of the night, Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10238581.post-1118108580937970562005-06-06T18:43:00.000-07:002005-06-06T18:43:00.000-07:00Oh yes: "Soldier's Heart" was another name for PTS...Oh yes: "Soldier's Heart" was another name for PTSD in the old days.Peterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11435013887780629734noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10238581.post-1118108531705962122005-06-06T18:42:00.000-07:002005-06-06T18:42:00.000-07:00EM: yes! It has goth teen written all over it, do...EM: yes! It has goth teen written all over it, doesn't it?<BR/>Reading Crane's history, with all his interviews with war survivors, I wonder also if it can be seen as the image of a soldier with PTSD?Peterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11435013887780629734noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10238581.post-1118108157198409582005-06-06T18:35:00.000-07:002005-06-06T18:35:00.000-07:00Hmmm, interesting. Teenagers love this poem, too--...Hmmm, interesting. Teenagers love this poem, too--I know I did as a teen--and it's one of the ones I suggest highschool English teachers haul out if they want kids to dig poetry. But I read it more as someone feasting on his bitterness, enjoying having a bitter heart--calm yes, but not "tired" and not to be sympathized with per se. More like a goth teen almost proud of his pain, wearing it on hisEmily Lloydhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03920886883651975823noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10238581.post-1118096130871338332005-06-06T15:15:00.000-07:002005-06-06T15:15:00.000-07:00Ivy: ohh. very intense. And thanks for the link to...Ivy: ohh. very intense. And thanks for the link to the essay.<BR/><BR/>When I read the poem, I get a vision of a calm, tired lion eating his heart. The Saturn painting you mention certainly fits, too.Peterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11435013887780629734noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10238581.post-1118093228161068702005-06-06T14:27:00.000-07:002005-06-06T14:27:00.000-07:00I don't know why but for me, that poem always conj...I don't know why but for me, that poem always conjures up Goya's '<A HREF="http://www.abcgallery.com/G/goya/goya78.html" REL="nofollow">Saturn Devouring One of His Sons</A>' [also stumbled across a cool essay <A HREF="http://cat.middlebury.edu/~nereview/morgan.html" REL="nofollow">here</A>].<BR/><BR/>Visceral, huh?Ivyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11703056626322603467noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10238581.post-1118087642114997142005-06-06T12:54:00.000-07:002005-06-06T12:54:00.000-07:00Thanks Pamela: It's really ancient! No wonder it s...Thanks Pamela: It's really ancient! No wonder it seems like such an archetypal.Peterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11435013887780629734noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10238581.post-1118087169452978772005-06-06T12:46:00.000-07:002005-06-06T12:46:00.000-07:00It's Homer, in the Iliad and in the Odyssey, with ...It's Homer, in the Iliad and in the Odyssey, with Bellerphon "eating his heart out and loathing the company of men." <BR/><BR/>I had the best classical literature professor imaginable, Dr. Richard Steiger, who was also the funniest teacher. He'd paraphrase the classical heroes in his Brooklyn accent. I've never forgotten his Paris to Helen, "Hiya, Toots."Pamela Johnson Parkerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06637447850820805268noreply@blogger.com